Doctors and the pill

[word]

Obviously this is a serious topic and hopefully this person can get help for said acne, but dude you totally mansplained! Maybe you don't like it when us ladies get annoyed for being stereotyped but that was wicked condescending.

Stop being so sensitive. If the OP had been a dude, I would've said the exact same thing (except, you know, with the word "guys" substituted for the word "girls"). Get over it.

Also, OP, if you ARE a dude, I sincerely apologize. It might be very foolish of me to assume that someone who takes "The Pill" and uses concealer is a girl.

just because it's possible doesn't mean that should automatically be assumed, though. acne as a Real Problem™ does exist, and assuming someone asking for help is just blowing things out of proportion is... not the most respectful way of responding to a pretty personal issue.

This is why I hate Official; you guys are the most ridiculously politically-correct, hypersensitive bunch of carebears ever to fill a web forum. I didn't assume that she was blowing things out of proportion. READ what I wrote:

...if you're like a lot of girls, you could be blowing a mild acne problem way out of proportion and quite possibly making it significantly worse; you might try giving your poor skin a break from the concealers and chemicals and prodding.

The English language. It's a fascinating and fantastic means of communication, but it only works well if both the speaker and the listener understand it.

I mean... c'mon, guys. A lot of people have basically said the same thing here. Frankly, I wanted to be a lot harsher with the OP. You guys seem to think that I am not taking her seriously, but FFS; she is talking about wanting to stay in her house at all times, feels "disgusting," and spends a great deal of time worrying about this. It is obviously a huge problem for her. If she's having as much trouble as she describes, it is definitely a serious issue. The fact that she's claiming she isn't stressed, though, when I and many others here have picked up on the fact that she quite clearly is extremely stressed, is rather telling. She's spoken to some medical professionals, they've told her she's stressed, and she doesn't want to listen to them. She could go through various dermatologists until she finds one that she likes, but if she's gonna ignore good advice from good sources, there's nothing that we can say here that's really gonna help her.

I mean... c'mon, guys. Get over yourselves. We're all adults here (hopefully). We need to be able to be honest with one another.

[sillysocks]

Political correctness is thinking about other groups of people feelings = not being an ass

I don't think you will understand you mansplain-ness, as you cannot identify with other groups of people, nor sympathise with them. If this was on ITIL or official I would still pull you up on it. I can see that you said alot of things, mostly alot of whining at how (two) people disagree with you and that we need to get over ourselves, which I'm sure we are quite capable of doing. Yes the language which you used didn't blatently say ALL WOMEN OVEREACT ABOUT ACNE but it was condscending enough to catch my attention.

[word]

Political correctness is thinking about other groups of people feelings = not being an ass

I don't think you will understand you mansplain-ness, as you cannot identify with other groups of people, nor sympathise with them. If this was on ITIL or official I would still pull you up on it. I can see that you said alot of things, mostly alot of whining at how (two) people disagree with you and that we need to get over ourselves, which I'm sure we are quite capable of doing. Yes the language which you used didn't blatently say ALL WOMEN OVEREACT ABOUT ACNE but it was condscending enough to catch my attention.

Now who's doing the assuming? I'm probably one of the most empathetic people I know (not the most sympathetic, but, yanno...). I still think you're being far too sensitive and need to get over yourself. Tell you what, why don't you go gripe at Namisuke for posting this in the "Departing ALTs and cleaning your apartment" thread:

I feel like anyone should simply be keeping good upkeep of their places by simply living in them. I guess the number of bachelors that come and live alone for the first time make for some nasty inherited dwellings

Or are you okay with double standards?

Also, for god's sake, use a browser with a built-in spellcheck.

Frankly Word, while I acknowledge that you may have a point about stress being at the genesis of the skin condition it isn't a helpful position at this time.

Okay, I'll grant you that. That is why, of course, my initial post was nice and helpful. It contained direct answers to the OP's two direct questions, as helpful and polite as I could manage. I then offered some carefully-worded advice and personal views on the matter (based on personal experience and history--and I'm certainly not the only person in this thread to have done so) and got jumped by hypersensitive, double-standardizing feminazis for it. I am not sorry I offered this advice, still feel it's quite relevant, sincere, and useful, and will continue to behave in such a manner in the future.



Anyone who knows me and my style here on Official knows I make truly heartfelt efforts to be helpful and supportive. A search of my posts (and an examination of my PMs by administrators) will certainly reveal this. My manner of speaking, sense of humor, and proclivity towards brutal honesty are not understood nor appreciated by all, and that's fine, but I don't enjoy being attacked for it. Anyone with a legitimate concern or question for which I have a valid response can always count on me to offer whatever I can. They may not like my answer, but it will be sincere and straightforward, and as helpful as I can make it.

[Namisuke]

I feel like anyone should simply be keeping good upkeep of their places by simply living in them. I guess the number of bachelors that come and live alone for the first time make for some nasty inherited dwellings

Or are you okay with double standards?

Haha, I actually thought of this today before I read this and realized I forgot to add bachelorettes to this. I'm not politically correct at all and hate having to categorize men and women all the time (especially now that there are more genders emerging). I find it funny that you're wanting people to calm down but are bringing up more of the same issues that you want people to relax about.

There's lot of word battles happening on here lately that don't really need to happen. I know people pop things up on here quickly and don't really think about it and then some silly arguement comes on about the tone someone used, if they didn't use an emoticon to explain humor, whatever. It really isn't worth the time to argue about wording and it just ends up cluttering the forums with fights.

[word]

Teehee! Make no mistake, I was not bothered in the slightest that you wrote that; in fact, I was thrilled, 'cause it gave me somethin' I could use here.

Also, I'm not actually calling for anyone to calm down... I rather enjoy forum drama.

[Cytrix]

Word I left you a little treat over in VIP

[NiigataPAKatrina]

I also used to get hormone-related acne when I was younger, and I've found now I really only break out when the seasons change in Japan. I know you said it started getting worse in January, but I think it took me about the same amount of time to break out when I came on a study abroad, so I wouldn't rule out how the climate can affect your body and subsequently your acne, in which case it might just take a little longer to adjust back, particularly if the climate of where you live now is very different from the climate of your home.

That being said, you can totally get the pill for acne in Japan, but an OBGYN would be the way to go, not a dermatologist.

[DewaFuji2]

Political correctness is thinking about other groups of people feelings = not being an ass

I don't think you will understand you mansplain-ness, as you cannot identify with other groups of people, nor sympathise with them. If this was on ITIL or official I would still pull you up on it. I can see that you said alot of things, mostly alot of whining at how (two) people disagree with you and that we need to get over ourselves, which I'm sure we are quite capable of doing. Yes the language which you used didn't blatently say ALL WOMEN OVEREACT ABOUT ACNE but it was condscending enough to catch my attention.

As soon as you start using "mansplain" in casual conversation you're probably not nearly as politically correct as you think you are.

[coop52]

To the OP- I used to think I had horrible skin problems and made them worse by trying to get rid of them ie using cleansers for oily skin or super-duper acne stuff when really I have normal skin. I also picked at stuff and tried covering anything up with a ton of concealer, which also only made things worse. What helped me was learning more about skin care. Before trying a pill, try these things:
- find a gentler cleanser
-exfoliate only once a week
-drink lots of water
-take vitamins and eat a proper diet
- moisturize moisturize moisturize!
- steam your face before washing to open up your pores, and use cold water and toner before you moisturize to help close them up again.
-don't over-wash your face.
-give your skin a break from makeup once a week.

Do these things and your skin should clear up considerable after a few weeks! I understand your skin might seem a huge unfixable thing, but it's probably not as bad as you think. You can fix it!

I am a lady btw, so no mansplaining here.

[Cytrix]

Yeah overwashing can cause even more acne because your skin becomes irritated etc. and you'll end up with a good dose of cystic acne

[cookiehearts]

Definitely try a different doctor or dermatologist. Go to one in a big city if you can. A dermatologist should be able to prescribe you the pill for your skin.

This link is pretty useful: http://www.survivingnjapan.com/2012/05/dermatology-in-japan-what-its-like-and.html

I have really fickle skin, it recently cleared up loads, I think because of:

- Taking 5,000 IU Vitamin D3 pills. This is way more than the recommended dosage, but my skin cleared up pretty quickly after this. Be careful though and be alert for toxicity symptoms. I would say consult your doctor, but since it's a relatively new idea/treatment, they are unlikely to have heard of it. You can buy these from iherb.com, and they have fairly cheap shipping.
- Zinc Picolinate pills. Again, you can buy these from iherb.com
- A Clarisonic. Seriously, buy one now. Do it. You can either buy them from rakuten or order it cheaper from Amazon.com
- A decent moisturiser. All of the moisturisers I have bought from Japanese drugstores have been utter crap. I am sure the SKII creams and Rice Force are good, but they are out of my price range. I buy Estee Lauder Hydrationist from Rakuten. It's about 4,000 yen, but lasts ages.
- A good cleanser. A lot of people say to use milk lotions for problem skin, but I find those just blocked my pores. I use Paula's Choice products - they aren't expensive but the shipping is. They have a Japanese site (where the shipping might be cheaper) but I always get error messages whenever I try and order.
- To improve the condition of your skin, consider buying a Glycolic Acid Peel Kit. These are expensive so do your research before you buy.

You can't be prescribed Accutane in Japan, but your US doctor can prescribe it and a Japanese doctor can then monitor your progress. To be honest, if you were treated with antibiotics and lotions in the US and they had little effect, it's unlikely any treatments in Japan will do you any good, and harsh BP creams may just make your skin worse.

Also look into: making sure you are getting enough Vitamin A, as well as cutting down on diary and gluten, to see if that is the root of the problem.

Don't cut out fat, your body needs it.

[Coriolis]

[That is why, of course, my initial post was nice and helpful. It contained direct answers to the OP's two direct questions, as helpful and polite as I could manage. I then offered some carefully-worded advice and personal views on the matter (based on personal experience and history--and I'm certainly not the only person in this thread to have done so) and got jumped by hypersensitive, double-standardizing feminazis for it. I am not sorry I offered this advice, still feel it's quite relevant, sincere, and useful, and will continue to behave in such a manner in the future.

Some of your advice in this thread seems pretty helpful, but it's hard not to take your thoughts with a grain of salt when you use the word "feminazi." It is an extremely stupid word to use, and it has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with lack of insight.

[word]

[That is why, of course, my initial post was nice and helpful. It contained direct answers to the OP's two direct questions, as helpful and polite as I could manage. I then offered some carefully-worded advice and personal views on the matter (based on personal experience and history--and I'm certainly not the only person in this thread to have done so) and got jumped by hypersensitive, double-standardizing feminazis for it. I am not sorry I offered this advice, still feel it's quite relevant, sincere, and useful, and will continue to behave in such a manner in the future.

Some of your advice in this thread seems pretty helpful, but it's hard not to take your thoughts with a grain of salt when you use the word "feminazi." It is an extremely stupid word to use, and it has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with lack of insight.

When one's comments are dismissed with blatantly sexist words like "mansplain," it seems relatively pointless to attempt to maintain a sense of civility. I shall always endeavor to respond to any individual with speech and comments of a level that reflect their speech and comments. Stupidity was posted, so stupidity was my response.

[mcfly]

[That is why, of course, my initial post was nice and helpful. It contained direct answers to the OP's two direct questions, as helpful and polite as I could manage. I then offered some carefully-worded advice and personal views on the matter (based on personal experience and history--and I'm certainly not the only person in this thread to have done so) and got jumped by hypersensitive, double-standardizing feminazis for it. I am not sorry I offered this advice, still feel it's quite relevant, sincere, and useful, and will continue to behave in such a manner in the future.

Some of your advice in this thread seems pretty helpful, but it's hard not to take your thoughts with a grain of salt when you use the word "feminazi." It is an extremely stupid word to use, and it has nothing to do with political correctness and everything to do with lack of insight.

When one's comments are dismissed with blatantly sexist words like "mansplain," it seems relatively pointless to attempt to maintain a sense of civility. I shall always endeavor to respond to any individual with speech and comments of a level that reflect their speech and comments. Stupidity was posted, so stupidity was my response.

Dude, word, I don't know if you're being purposely obtuse, but you said something that hinted that you were suggesting her problem was that she was a girl. So you didn't mean it that way, that's cool, but someone pointing out "hey that thing that you said comes off as you being condescending to women for being too emotionally invested in their skin" isn't being a feminazi or POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAAAAD! It's just someone pointing out language that has the potential of reinforcing negative stereotypes. You don't have to agree with that but it's not stupid, and the use of the word "mansplain" isn't sexist (it doesn't mean "men explaining anything is bad"). You're being just as dramatic and careposting just as much as anyone else, so just chill out. Take it for what it is, just a warning that your language may have come off as offensive, and clarify yourself as need be but really, your sarcastic and defensive response to someone saying that they REALIZED you were trying to be helpful but that your wording came off a certain way is almost bizarrely defensive.

People don't point out potentially harmful language because they want to create a hugbox, they do it because they want to help chip away at harmful stereotypes that perpetuate discriminatory attitudes, regardless of how well-meaning the person who said it is or not. I hope you can empathize with the idea that it would be a little hurtful to have someone seem to suggest that your problem that is seriously affecting your life is because you're acting "like a lot of girls" and that's making it worse. That's all.

On topic, Magic Wonder, I get my birth control from this website. My friend uses it to get Yaz for her acne, and they deliver to Japan for really reasonable prices. The website itself is in Japanese, so if you're not quite comfortable enough ordering on your own perhaps you could get someone to help you? http://www.idrugmt.com/ Just a suggestion. I hope it works out for you!

[dhsensei]

Magic Wonder, I doubt a doctor will care if you tell them you've lived in Japan for X years (people say they get complimented on chopstick use and Japanese after living in Japan for 10+ years). I found the only way to get a doctor to listen to one of my problems was to first take a Japanese friend in, who managed to convince the doctor for stronger medication, and then my supervisor who basically demanded I be given a full course of the medication.
If you have a Japanese friend you can trust to go in with you and explain stuff, that might help a lot more.


As for the rest of this thread, it's the first time I've heard the term 'mansplain', and from the context, looks like it means 'explanations made by a man, who could never understand the issue, due to being a man.' So I guess 'womansplain' is a valid word.
Why even use these gender defined words when, to me, it seemed like Word perhaps generalised, or maybe overgeneralised his final note. Two gender neutral (and currently dictionary defined) words that give the same criticism without possible sexism issues.