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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby AVN » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:03 pm

Shea wrote:
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Shea wrote:I agree, although I don't envy you the plane trip over (I find plane food to be particularly bad for motion sickness), once you get there it's not so bad. I've worked in Japan before, and although I'm not as bad as you with motion sickness, it can get fairly bad, especially on buses. I found the train system there to be fantastic though. I worked in a medium size city (about half a million people), and when I was surfing around YouTube for JET apartment videos, I found one of a JET in the same city I was! I was really surprised because I thought placements were more rural than that, and on average they probably are, or perhaps the JET's in the video were on the outskirts of the city. Anyways the thing is I was able to make do with a bike and trains my whole time I was there (mostly my bike, I had an awesome shiny green one which I completely loved!). Even though I do have a license (and will be getting my international certificate) I put on my application that I prefer not to drive because I was seriously worried about driving on the other side of the road lol (since then I've had many people assure me I'll be fine, and it's pretty easy). At least I have it in case I need to rent a car (I'm thinking more for day trips further away, and perhaps a shopping trip to a furniture store). I'm really looking forward to the whole experience if I get a job with JET (and a new shiny green bike!!).


Shea, just so you know. Half a million people is way more than a medium sized city... I mean it's not Sapporo or Osaka but... For a JET 500 000 is HUGE. Within most of the JET community anything over 100 000 is a medium-large city. 500 000 you're probably looking at the capital of a prefecture. The place all the other JETs go to go shopping to get the foreign food they want etc. Those placements do exist though.

You have a license but put you can't drive..? I don't know to me that's a little bit unfair. You might take a really good placement from someone who actually can't drive. They might also put you in a placement where you're not allowed to drive at all even outside of work. I would think about that decision carefully before the interview. Driving on the other side of the road takes about 1 day or 2 to get used to. It's super easy and makes living in Japan, especially as a JET, much more convenient. You might send strange signals if you show up and they think you can't drive then you buy a car.


On the application it asks if you have a driver's license... BUT it also said to put 'no' if you have one but would prefer not to drive. I don't appreciate being attacked for my preferences, because I truly feel uncomfortable being forced to drive to work everyday if I don't feel confident doing so (they can't make you drive if you feel uncomfortable, and that's probably why they put in the subtext). Although since then I've had many people try to put my fears to rest, and now I would be willing to try out driving, but maybe for a day trip or something, but definitely not everyday for work. If it turns out I'm not allowed to drive, well then so be it, I don't mind (it was my decision to put 'no' on the application). Japan has a great transportation system. I am sure I'm not the first JET to prefer not to drive, and likely won't be the last.

I've also lived in a city with half a million people my whole life, and I live close to much larger cities with a million or more people, so half a million feels like a medium sized city to me. Although I do agree that some other people may think it is rather large if they are from a smaller city. I also know that JET usually places candidates in much smaller, and rural towns, I've read everything on the JET site like 10 times over.




The only reason I came on so strong is because I know many people who have no license at all who get placed in tiny towns with one or two trains a day who would love to be able to drive if they could or have access to better public transportation. I would feel for them and/or they would be upset if they knew a JET who put they were unwlling to drive and thus got a city with a much better transportation system but still got a car and drove when it suited them.

I'm only telling you this because it could create some discord or tension between you and other JETs in your area. So you should be prepared for that.

Also they might bring it up at the interview. Asking why you are unable to drive, make sure you have a good solid answer for that or as jim said it might reflect poorly on you.

I'm not attacking you so much as expressing that I disapprove of the reason behind your decision and your willingness to still drive even though you said no. To me, that is a strange decision. I complete understand not being willing to drive due to anxiety, my friend can't drive for that very reason, but I do not understand your willingness to drive for yourself but not work.
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Smasha » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 am

this discussion about driving has me a bit worried: on my application there was a question about having a license, but no question about whether i was willing to drive or not.
i have a license and can drive, but would prefer not to in Japan because it would require spending money on a car, gas, insurance, etc. that I don't yet have( and debt to pay off, so money goes towards that). Is this something I should mention in the interview? It's not that I am not willing, and I would love having a car to go on day trips and stuff, but its the money that concerns me. What do you guys think?
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby jpsensei » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:02 am

I'm in the same position, but you gotta ask yourself if it is a deal breaker for you, otherwise I wouldn't mention it. You don't know what kind of placement you'll get, if driving to work will be mandatory or just a possibility. Why attract their attention on something that may make their job of placing you more complicated than it already is? We can all have preferences, but we have to demonstrate an ability to adapt and I wouldn't want to miss this opportunity for something that, for me, is a detail in the grand scheme of things.

Sure, I put down Osaka and Tokyo as my two first picks while knowing full well many people would do the same (Okinawa coming in 3rd), but if I am asked about that I'll just say it's cause while I may enjoy urban areas and warmer climates a bit more, I will go ANYWHERE they send me and make the best of it, even if it's on a desert island ;) Same goes for driving!
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Threz_ » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:56 am

jpsensei wrote:Sure, I put down Osaka and Tokyo as my two first picks while knowing full well many people would do the same (Okinawa coming in 3rd), but if I am asked about that I'll just say it's cause while I may enjoy urban areas and warmer climates a bit more, I will go ANYWHERE they send me and make the best of it, even if it's on a desert island ;) Same goes for driving!


Tokyo is generally not an option for placement in the application, as there are no JETs in Tokyo city. There are some in the surrounding area, but not nearly as many as other parts in Japan. I'm not sure how you indicated you wanted Tokyo, but I'm sorry to tell you that the closest you'll get is somewhere like Chiba prefecture.
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby jpsensei » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:12 am

Actually I believe it was the area around Tokyo haha....Well I don't really care that much about where they put me really, every place has its pros and cons. Same goes for commuting. I have a daily 3-4 hour commute from home to work/school and back, so transportation can't get /much/ worse.
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby AVN » Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:28 am

The other thing is just because you need a license for work does not mean you need to buy a car. Often if you need a car for work they will provide one for you, usually only for work but sometimes even for your private uses.
Now sometimes they will expect you to use your own car but they will cover your fuel used for work.
If this is the case your pred will probably have a car to sell you and you can probably pay in installments.
It's also possible to rent cars instead of buying if you're not eager to drive.
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Smasha » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:33 am

AVNicholls wrote:The other thing is just because you need a license for work does not mean you need to buy a car. Often if you need a car for work they will provide one for you, usually only for work but sometimes even for your private uses.
Now sometimes they will expect you to use your own car but they will cover your fuel used for work.
If this is the case your pred will probably have a car to sell you and you can probably pay in installments.
It's also possible to rent cars instead of buying if you're not eager to drive.

good advice, thank you!!!!
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Fukuisaurus » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:46 am

Smasha wrote:this discussion about driving has me a bit worried: on my application there was a question about having a license, but no question about whether i was willing to drive or not.
i have a license and can drive, but would prefer not to in Japan because it would require spending money on a car, gas, insurance, etc. that I don't yet have( and debt to pay off, so money goes towards that). Is this something I should mention in the interview? It's not that I am not willing, and I would love having a car to go on day trips and stuff, but its the money that concerns me. What do you guys think?

I wouldn't worry too much about the money, Smasha. Almost all JETs in my area own cars, but they still manage to pay all their bills and pay off their loans. One friend in particular comes to mind... he puts around ¥100,000 (1/3 of his pay!) every month toward his student loans, but even he owns a pretty nice car (Honda Fit, I think).

Obviously owning a car IS a significant expense, but most people here have no problem finding room in their budget for one. JETs are paid very well for what we do. If you do decide to get a car, you'll be fine.
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Smasha » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:18 pm

Fukuisaurus wrote:
Smasha wrote:this discussion about driving has me a bit worried: on my application there was a question about having a license, but no question about whether i was willing to drive or not.
i have a license and can drive, but would prefer not to in Japan because it would require spending money on a car, gas, insurance, etc. that I don't yet have( and debt to pay off, so money goes towards that). Is this something I should mention in the interview? It's not that I am not willing, and I would love having a car to go on day trips and stuff, but its the money that concerns me. What do you guys think?

I wouldn't worry too much about the money, Smasha. Almost all JETs in my area own cars, but they still manage to pay all their bills and pay off their loans. One friend in particular comes to mind... he puts around ¥100,000 (1/3 of his pay!) every month toward his student loans, but even he owns a pretty nice car (Honda Fit, I think).

Obviously owning a car IS a significant expense, but most people here have no problem finding room in their budget for one. JETs are paid very well for what we do. If you do decide to get a car, you'll be fine.


That makes me feel more at ease!!! Thank you Fukuisaurus!

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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Fukuisaurus » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:19 pm

Smasha wrote:That makes me feel more at ease!!! Thank you Fukuisaurus!

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No problem :) I understand the prospect of having to buy a car immediately on arrival in Japan can be quite daunting, especially when you combine that with key money, furniture, and other initial expenses... but it's perfectly doable. Worst-case scenario: you may have to be especially frugal during your first couple of months, just until you have a paycheck or two under your belt.

Good luck with the interview! Be confident, be energetic, and just be yourself. ^^
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Namisuke » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:41 pm

I think there is a chance you could buy a car with monthly payments. Anyone got info on that? Some people can also lease (realistically renting as it isn't quite the same here) a car for a good price. I think some ALTs in my area were spending 22,000/month on the lease, which is decent. Whatever deal you get will depend on your school/BOE. I can lease a car if I wanted to in my town through my school, but my boyfriend cannot. See what your pred has to say if you get hired. Usually you get placed near your schools, so you might not NEED to drive - you might just want to because of convenience.
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby Anigi » Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:06 am

Just a bit of comfort... for those interviewing today and tomorrow in Vancouver. The interviewers were super nice. Didn't get any good cop/bad cop bit. ^_^ good luck!
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby jpsensei » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:36 am

I just came back from my interview a couple hours ago. Everyone was nice and professional, there is nothing to be afraid of really! I have no regrets, best of luck to all of you ;)
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby a3112588 » Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:52 am

Agree :D
But I think there were at least 4 different interview rooms though,
mine was on 3025 I think and the interviewers were really nice :P

I wonder how many interviewee were there though,
it seemed like on the sign in list there were 4 people for each half hour frame,
so I'm just guessing it'll add up to around 50~ ppl today ...hmm
so a total of around 100 candidates?? :lol:
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Re: Aspiring Canadian JETs 2012

Postby daniel.flores » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:48 pm

Thanks guys, good to know!

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