Kain of the Wired wrote:
hunterofpeace wrote:I also disagree with (and am slightly offended by) this. I worked as a server while putting myself through both college and grad school. I worked extremely hard, long hours 5 nights a week to scrape by. With my car payments, rent, utilities, and student loans I barely had enough each month but I put what I did have in savings. I don't even have the recommended 200,000 yen. Are you insinuating that I am simply not disciplined enough, and I shouldn't be allowed this employment opportunity? Kain has solved the world's poverty crisis, you gaiz. Poor people just need MOAR DISCIPRINNNE.
You sound highly offended but that was not my intention, nor is proposing a solution to world poverty. Everyone has the right to apply for and accept any job BUT that right does not extend to showing up in Japan and subsequently demanding a loan from your new employer (or neighbours). I used "demanding" there because once you are here there is very little choice for your CO - they can't just send you home again. People in Japan save for a long time if they want something and loans are not common. I understand that many people have a rough times at uni and I can empathise with that (I did too) but everyone has the option to work for another year (or more) before applying and saving an appropriate amount of money.
There are a lot of generous people here, and that is fantastic, but you can't expect help from that quarter with any certainty.
Not highly, slightly. I do not take issue with your entire statement. I do agree that it is best to be as prepared as possible. I really doubt that anyone just shows up and demands to be taken care of. What I do take issue with is this... "You don't need a *good* or *decent* job to save up 300,000yen, you just need to be disciplined
which is probably another virtue prospective participants should have." It implies that it is possible (with enough discipline of course) to save that much money if you don't have a decent job. We may have different understandings of what equates a "decent" job. If your yearly income is below the poverty level, you might find it harder to scrape up that amount, especially if your financial responsibilities are high. You also stated that applicants should have to prove that they have that much to be considered for the job. This significantly reduces the chances of otherwise qualified employees of even being considered for hire simply because they do not have the good fortune of their wealthier peers. Let me communicate that I understand your point. I don't think that JETs should be a burden on their CO. Nor should anyone expect to receive handouts. I just don't think the issue is discipline which, from the above statement, is what it sounded like to me.
Also, not every area is as expensive as yours. Requiring at least 300,000 yen for an inaka placement would be overkill. Some people don't even use 100,000. It just seems like an extreme solution that would cause more issues than it solves.
Also also, in my area at least, COs are making the switch *towards* JET and away from corporations. I don't think the decline in JET in recent years has to do with the standards of the program. If anything, standards are much tougher now than ever. I think the demand for foreign ALTs in general may be on the decline.
Again, I'm not really offended. That was a poor choice of words. I guess it's just an issue I see from a different perspective.
I'm like a hunter of peace, one who chases the elusive mayfly of love. Or something like that...