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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby japanagram » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:04 am

merkypie wrote:
Well, naturally I'll ask my pred all of those questions before I come. My MacBook is set to region 2, so I need my regular DVD player to play R1 DVDs (actually, I hacked it no-region so I can play anything on it. My macbook is still under warranty so I don't wanna flash the DVD drive and void it) and my PS3 is my bluray player. So, rather than buying all this crap all over again, I just want to bring it with me. If my apartment does not have a TV, then I'll just go out there and find some cheap TV to get me by until payday :) Helllloooo Amazon.co.jp (granted, if I can find some location with wifi or an internet cafe).



Oooo, merkypie, what have your discoveries been so far with regards to adaptors/transporters for your Macbook in Japan? There's a kit set on Apple with lots of different adaptors for worldwide use but i wondered if you've come across anything cheaper and available for just Japan, which is all we will need?
I have a Macbook you see...

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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Cliodhna » Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:43 am

^ Your mac does not need an adapter to work in Japan. The big square block *is* the power adapter, and the plugs in america are the same as in Japan for two pronged plugs. Three pronged american plugs (with the bottom prong that is the grounder) will not fit in Japanese plugs. Therefore, all PC users should find something that changes their three pronged charger plug into a two pronged. Mac users will be immune to this. If macs need an extention that works in Japan, during orientation if you can run to Ginza to the apple store, not only do all the staff speak fluent english (blew my mind when I went in) but you can get an extension cord that has a two pronged plug and a little green grounding wire that comes out of it. I've got one of these if anyone wants me to take a picture to see what it looks like, but basically I don't plug in the grounding wire ever so it just chills there when I use the plug.

Electronics from the US will also work fine in Japan barring that you do not try to bring an alarm clock, or any kind of plug-in clock, with you. Flat irons, hair curlers, anything else like that, work fine. Japan is just one or two volts below america so the difference is insubstantial. You'll probably just be finding yourself turning the temperature up on things like hair styling items to make up for the slight difference. And again, you don't want to bring clocks because they will run slower and keep time badly due to the tiny voltage difference. :lol: When you get a cell phone there, you can use it as an alarm clock. Or, if you want to bring along your american phone and use it as an alarm clock till you get your Japanese one that's useful too. Otherwise, american electronics that have two pronged plugs should work perfectly fine there.

My luggage advice: when I first did study abroad, I had two giant pieces of luggage that only had one set of wheels and I was overweight on both of them. While I feel that being overweight on your luggage is going to be absolutely impossible to avoid going to Japan (because you're going to be there for at least a year!), I really really really wished that I'd had the new four wheel luggage bags. When I came back home, I did end up going to sams/costco and buying a luggage set that was not only hard covered but had the four wheels. Let me say now that if you know you're going to be overweight on large luggage going through Narita airport, you WANT the four wheels because struggling through customs wielding both bags solo on two wheels each (especially if you're tiny like me) is going to kill you after 24+ of travel. I also destroyed the wheels on my original luggage from study abroad because of rough handling at the airport and the heavy load, so investing in new luggage at a good price at places like sams and costco will be worth it I think. :)

Speaking of overweight luggage, the charge leaving the US is $50, but for the same thing leaving japan it was only $17, so.....hahaha. I would say go ahead and pack everything you need even if it's overweight knowing that it probably won't be as bad coming home again.

Also, who is considering bringing study books with them? Like Japanese books or dictionaries and such? I'm feeling really torn about this, and I don't know if I'm comfortable mailing them to myself because JPP tore up the last box of books I sent and lost over half of them and gave me someone else's crappy '70s fantasy books instead. :lol: :cry:
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Anigi » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:08 am

Cliodhna wrote:....and gave me someone else's crappy '70s fantasy books instead. :lol: :cry:



hey that was a beloved book for someone :P

Thanks for the advice about the alarm clock. I have been toying with the idea of getting one that hooks up to my ipod (both because I know I will need one and because I have been wanting one for some time) but now I will wait.

I was told the same thing about laptops, they convert themselves. I ended up buying a 5 way/country converter thing last time I went, which was super convenient for the first week I spent in training in Osaka (I was working for AEON at the time).

I did find that you can buy a power bar at places like Midori Denki that have 5 or so spots for 3 pronged plug ins. So you can get them in Japan, but you will probably have to wait till you get a chance to go fine one.
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby merkypie » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:11 am

Cliodhna wrote:^ Your mac does not need an adapter to work in Japan. The big square block *is* the power adapter


The brick isn't necessarily the power adapter. The brick just converts the power. You can exchange the adaptors out on the brick, like the 3-prong extension or the two prong wall adaptor.

Speaking of overweight luggage, the charge leaving the US is $50, but for the same thing leaving japan it was only $17, so.....hahaha. I would say go ahead and pack everything you need even if it's overweight knowing that it probably won't be as bad coming home again.


I wouldn't say that's the flat rate. This is me speaking as a former airline employee, but each airline runs their fees differently. So once you find out your airline, research their baggage fees and plan accordingly. AA's overweight backage fees for China/Japan flights are $60 for bags that are over 50lbs and $420 for each bag over 70lbs. AA also allows you the first two bags free, that may not be the case on an airline like Delta or United/Continental.

The four-wheel, hard case, bags are nice. Samsonites are pretty durable from personal experience in the bagroom. They also have some cases that expand outward so you can fit even more. Don't go to Walmart and buy your luggage, I guarantee you it won't survive more than one trip since we'll be connecting flights.

Oooo, merkypie, what have your discoveries been so far with regards to adaptors/transporters for your Macbook in Japan? There's a kit set on Apple with lots of different adaptors for worldwide use but i wondered if you've come across anything cheaper and available for just Japan, which is all we will need?
I have a Macbook you see...


Cliodhna is right in what she said. So I'm not worried about power adaptors/converters for my MacBook. The PS3 and DVD player might be an issue.
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Anigi » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:24 am

merkypie wrote:
Cliodhna is right in what she said. So I'm not worried about power adaptors/converters for my MacBook. The PS3 and DVD player might be an issue.



Last time I was there I brought my DVD player from Canada and my co-worker had his Wii from the States, neither of us had to use power converters (I'm not sure if he had to use an adapter or not though) I am going to say that if the PS3 only has two prongs you should be ok. Though I would still recommend picking up a power bar/surge protector when you get here :D
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby nicole.ai » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:37 am

Anigi wrote:
merkypie wrote:
Cliodhna is right in what she said. So I'm not worried about power adaptors/converters for my MacBook. The PS3 and DVD player might be an issue.



Last time I was there I brought my DVD player from Canada and my co-worker had his Wii from the States, neither of us had to use power converters (I'm not sure if he had to use an adapter or not though) I am going to say that if the PS3 only has two prongs you should be ok. Though I would still recommend picking up a power bar/surge protector when you get here :D


My fiance in Sapporo has a US PS3 and he plugs it into a surge protector. But, I believe he had to buy some kind of power converter thing to lower the volts/wattage for his XBOX 360.
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby ravens444 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:58 am

Hey guys! I'm fresh out of University, and I'm a short-lister heading to Japan! After reading a couple of posts, I was just curious as to how much money everyone is planning/hoping to bring with them for their first few weeks? I hear that we get our first paycheque mid-August, so we should have some funds to last us until then. Do you think 1500.00 is enough? Thoughts anyone?
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Cliodhna » Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:12 am

@Merkypie: Yes, sorry, you're right about the adapter/converter thing. I was using the words interchangeably which is a mistake on my part. xD And that's good to know about the airline charges. Both of my domestics to hub airport for international flights have been under the Delta corporate umbrella so it's been the same for me for my past adventures. :oops:

@Anigi: Ahhh, they have three pronged power strips?? That's awesome. I was always running out of plugs before. A surge protector might be a good thing to have, but you'd definitely have to watch out for the heat factor if we end up in places with tatami or paper. Japan is so famous for being flammable, haha.

ravens444 wrote:Hey guys! I'm fresh out of University, and I'm a short-lister heading to Japan! After reading a couple of posts, I was just curious as to how much money everyone is planning/hoping to bring with them for their first few weeks? I hear that we get our first paycheque mid-August, so we should have some funds to last us until then. Do you think 1500.00 is enough? Thoughts anyone?


Hello! I think our paychecks are actually going to be ESID. Some people get paid upfront, some don't get paid till the end of the month or middle of next month in some cases. So, best to be prepared for funding yourself for a month, I think. My guessitmate for a good average amount would be USD$2500, but really you won't know how much to bring until receiving your placement and talking to your predecessor. :)
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Kirari » Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:43 am

Trudi wrote:
do we organise flights or do JET do it? if so who are we flying with? because airlines ahve diferent baggage restrictions from each other so i would be hesitant in buying bags until i know what the maximum size allowed is. also when do we found out who we asre flying with? also is it direct from edinburgh or via heathrow or schipol or somewhere? so many questions >_<....


JET organise flights!
It won't be direct from Edinburgh. We will find out the flight details after London orientation.
So yes, wait to buy a bag until then.
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My consulate's orientation is being held the day before we fly out to Japan. So unfortunately I can't wait until then to find out the airline. So, I've wasted a bit of time today finding out which airlines fly from my consulate's airport (Atlanta-Hartsfield) to Tokyo-Narita, departing on July 28th. Then I looked up the baggage requirements of each of those airlines. I've cut and pasted the results into a Google Doc for anyone who's interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RqKb9SJuRZLVjnxSsjtmuyJggb9D7WEBWWiwfFmS0Oc/edit (probably should have put it in a spreadsheet, but I didn't feel like it, lol)

Of course, this doesn't apply to everyone, but it gives you a good idea of what you might be looking at. Seems as though the general limit for checked bags is 62 inches and 50 lbs, and 45 inches for carry ons.

Cliodhna wrote:Also, who is considering bringing study books with them? Like Japanese books or dictionaries and such? I'm feeling really torn about this, and I don't know if I'm comfortable mailing them to myself because JPP tore up the last box of books I sent and lost over half of them and gave me someone else's crappy '70s fantasy books instead. :lol: :cry:


I'm bringing my two Genki textbooks and probably my Heisig's Remembering the Kanji. I also have a book I adore, Expressive Japanese, but as that's not super-essential for the first few weeks of living there, I'll get it sent over. Especially since I'm getting the lightweight LL Bean duffle bags (as opposed to a rolling suitcase), I'll have a few extra pounds available. I think I'll put them in my checked bags, since my carry-ons will have stuff/space for TO.
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby happytofu » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:15 am

Cliodhna wrote:Also, who is considering bringing study books with them? Like Japanese books or dictionaries and such? I'm feeling really torn about this, and I don't know if I'm comfortable mailing them to myself because JPP tore up the last box of books I sent and lost over half of them and gave me someone else's crappy '70s fantasy books instead. :lol: :cry:

Unfortunately, books are very heavy, so I'm consolidating Genki I and a half dozen other choice books into study guides and putting 'em on my Kindle. Only Genki II and a pocket dictionary are special enough to come along. :mrgreen:
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Kirari » Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:31 am

omnom wrote:
Cliodhna wrote:Also, who is considering bringing study books with them? Like Japanese books or dictionaries and such? I'm feeling really torn about this, and I don't know if I'm comfortable mailing them to myself because JPP tore up the last box of books I sent and lost over half of them and gave me someone else's crappy '70s fantasy books instead. :lol: :cry:

Unfortunately, books are very heavy, so I'm consolidating Genki I and a half dozen other choice books into study guides and putting 'em on my Kindle. Only Genki II and a pocket dictionary are special enough to come along. :mrgreen:


Woah, you can do that? Is that like scanning and making a pdf, or are you painstakingly going through and typing something out? i have a nook, so, that's something I'd like to do too, especially for Genki I, as you said. :o
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby happytofu » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:32 am

Kirari wrote:Woah, you can do that? Is that like scanning and making a pdf, or are you painstakingly going through and typing something out? i have a nook, so, that's something I'd like to do too, especially for Genki I, as you said. :o

I went through Genki I in college, and turned everything into study guides as I went--I typed up the verbs into a chart with their various particles/forms, made a vocab list, put all the grammatical concepts into an outline with examples, made kanji charts, etc. Grouped together like that, instead of broken up by chapter like in the book. I had everything as Word and Excel documents, which were a cinch to convert to PDF. Since this is a book I already mastered, I find these muuuch more helpful... and of course, they weigh nothing compares to the whole textbook!

Similarly, I have a book on verbs, one on adverbs, another on particles... I did the same to these. Consolidated the overarching concepts in PDFs.

My pocket dictionary includes the vocab I can then plug into the grammatical concepts, and Genki II's concepts aren't as ingrained in my mind, so that's why they get to come.

(BTW, in my humble opinion, the Pocket Kenkyusha Dictionary is the best for those of us too poor/cheap for an electronic one. :mrgreen: )
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Loerian » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:37 am

sorry prob a stupid question but will airport security take a ps3 off you if you have it in your carry on luggage i'd rather buy another over there than a cause a bomb scare and b lose my ps3 to dublin airport ?
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Kirari » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:48 am

omnom wrote:
Kirari wrote:Woah, you can do that? Is that like scanning and making a pdf, or are you painstakingly going through and typing something out? i have a nook, so, that's something I'd like to do too, especially for Genki I, as you said. :o

I went through Genki I in college, and turned everything into study guides as I went--I typed up the verbs into a chart with their various particles/forms, made a vocab list, put all the grammatical concepts into an outline with examples, made kanji charts, etc. Grouped together like that, instead of broken up by chapter like in the book. I had everything as Word and Excel documents, which were a cinch to convert to PDF. Since this is a book I already mastered, I find these muuuch more helpful... and of course, they weigh nothing compares to the whole textbook!

Similarly, I have a book on verbs, one on adverbs, another on particles... I did the same to these. Consolidated the overarching concepts in PDFs.

My pocket dictionary includes the vocab I can then plug into the grammatical concepts, and Genki II's concepts aren't as ingrained in my mind, so that's why they get to come.

(BTW, in my humble opinion, the Pocket Kenkyusha Dictionary is the best for those of us too poor/cheap for an electronic one. :mrgreen: )


Ohhh, okay. My friend and I tried to do that once. I remember sitting with Genki I and notebook paper and trying to think of all the uses of the て form. We never even finished getting started, ha.

So... if you don't mind, and if it's not too much trouble, would you please send me your PDFs? It would just make things so much easier (and of course, I won't be selling them). Please PM me if you can. :D And I'm at Barnes and Noble right now, so I'll go look to see if they have that pocket dictionary you mentioned!
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Re: Packing and Preparation?

Postby Sendai_Momiji » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:58 am

Loerian wrote:sorry prob a stupid question but will airport security take a ps3 off you if you have it in your carry on luggage i'd rather buy another over there than a cause a bomb scare and b lose my ps3 to dublin airport ?


I'm not sure how they'll handle things in the UK but over here in America, as long as you take your electronic devices out of your carry on, you're golden. You plop it on the conveyor belt, TSA scans in to make sure you're not packing a bomb, and then when it comes out the other side you put it back in your bag and roll on to your gate.

I saw somebody up thread mention pre-flight orientation meetings. Do any of our fabulous current JETs and ex-JETs remember when they had their meetings? I'm flying out of a different consulate than the one I interviewed in because I want to see my family before I go. I'll be in Indiana for the month before the departure date so I'm wondering if I'll need to leave early and spend a day or two in Chicago before we leave to attend pre-departure orientation or attend required meetings?

Yeah...I think that made sense?
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