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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby learn1ng » Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:38 am

Thanks for the words of encouragement and the straight talk to keep things real. I guess all of us alternates who are serious about getting to Japan but don't have much of a chance through JET in the 2012 year would probably have been be better off at this point in time if we applied to alternative organizations/companies so that our eggs weren't all in one basket. :o

I'm indefinitely committed to JET if that seemingly more and more unlikely upgrade comes, but to be realistic in terms of job prospects I should face the facts and get working on applying other English-teaching ALT positions that offer similar opportunities for cultural exchange and immersion. Makes sense to me that I should be more proactive rather than gloomy and passive in regards to "Late-July and Still No Upgrade, What's Next and in My Best Interest?" After all, being proactive will be an important part of being a good ALT in my opinion.

The prospect of re-applying for JET is a little disconcerting since I hear both kinds of outcomes where previous alternates get short-listed the 2nd time while other alternates didn't even get an interview the 2nd time around. And given the long application/screening process, it feels like a little too much for me to bear in having to wait a whole year for another shot with JET.

Some JET-alumni I spoke with who were ALTs several years ago gave me conflicting information in regards to upgrades, in that at least for ALTs who packed up and left around the middle of the school year in their area, those positions were basically left unfilled until the next year's JETs arrived, which also made things harder for the schools and students. But I also heard for sure that chances for upgrades to replace quitters exists if those who have a change of heart about being a JET just up and leave during September, about 1-2 months after they have arrived in Japan.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby atsuipocket » Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:45 am

Man, it's been a while since I've visited. D: As this weekend is the big weekend for Group A, what are the other alternates doing to get by as painlessly as possible? My best friends are spending the weekend with me and we're going tubing and whatnot.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Emidono » Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:02 am

atsuipocket wrote:Man, it's been a while since I've visited. D: As this weekend is the big weekend for Group A, what are the other alternates doing to get by as painlessly as possible? My best friends are spending the weekend with me and we're going tubing and whatnot.


Well I'll probably be spending the next week spending some time with my boyfriend, who is getting ready to leave with Group B..haha.. :( Yeah, does not help me not think about being on the alternate list.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Meela » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:52 am

I just got a call from the Embassy here in Trinidad. I've been upgraded! I"m still trying to deal with the reality of it all, seeing as I gave up any hope of being considered for this year and decided to spend my money all willy-nilly.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby koko » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:02 am

Meela wrote:I just got a call from the Embassy here in Trinidad. I've been upgraded! I"m still trying to deal with the reality of it all, seeing as I gave up any hope of being considered for this year and decided to spend my money all willy-nilly.


Congrats, Meela! It's a bit surreal isn't it? Do you know when you are leaving yet?
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Meela » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:42 am

koko wrote:
Meela wrote:I just got a call from the Embassy here in Trinidad. I've been upgraded! I"m still trying to deal with the reality of it all, seeing as I gave up any hope of being considered for this year and decided to spend my money all willy-nilly.


Congrats, Meela! It's a bit surreal isn't it? Do you know when you are leaving yet?


All they told me was that I'd be leaving 'sometime' in September. I don't have any details yet. I was so sure I was dreaming. Saying this is funny now, but I had to take black tea without sugar just so I could taste the bitterness to make sure it wasn't a dream.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Emidono » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:49 am

Meela wrote:I just got a call from the Embassy here in Trinidad. I've been upgraded! I"m still trying to deal with the reality of it all, seeing as I gave up any hope of being considered for this year and decided to spend my money all willy-nilly.


WOW that's awesome! I'm so happy for you, congrats! It must feel amazing.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Teishou » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:23 pm

Meela wrote:I just got a call from the Embassy here in Trinidad. I've been upgraded! I"m still trying to deal with the reality of it all, seeing as I gave up any hope of being considered for this year and decided to spend my money all willy-nilly.


Congratulations! Please heartily enjoy your euphoria!
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby eFred » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:47 pm

Meela wrote:I just got a call from the Embassy here in Trinidad. I've been upgraded! I"m still trying to deal with the reality of it all, seeing as I gave up any hope of being considered for this year and decided to spend my money all willy-nilly.


I popped in here to get some comfort in misery. But then I read this and got surge of hope. That said, I got an internship (that I'm extremely happy with) 2 months ago and there has been no time to think about JET, but seeing people leaving was a little bit of a downer. Nevertheless, glad to see that there are still random upgrades. :D
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby learn1ng » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:16 am

Well the Chicago coordinator sent an email that said that the Group C will be the focus now after Group A got to Japan, but also that upgrades are still happening, so hope is still out there for us alternates.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby husky » Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:35 am

Congratulations to those who were accepted!

I like how open the Chicago embassy has been with their progress; the last time I posted I think I mentioned not hearing anything out of the NY embassy at all, and that hasn't changed one bit since then, haha.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Emidono » Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:12 pm

Sad to not be hearing of anymore upgrades lately..or from anyone in general. I'm sure many alternates have given up on these forums, something I should have also done a long time ago and moved on..But for some reason talking to an invisible audience feeling the same anxieties as you is comforting..So I apologize in advance for this depressing post, I just feel I need to let things out since I do little actual talking about it (not so good with talking, makes me cry instantly). I also guess I'm holding out for some consolidation.

My boyfriend of 2.5 years left with group B today for the JET program. I originally didn't want to be at the airport when he left (really bad in these airport situations) but I ended up there somehow. I got to see all excited and nervous JETs getting ready for their flight to Japan. Don't know if there's anything close to seeing that that would be a bigger hit in an alternates face. Not being able to be a part of a dream of yours and seeing your loved one leave is a very heartbreaking combination.

Not too long ago I considered applying to JET again, an idea to pick myself up a little. However, recently I realized that idea and hope just can't happen. My dad, who has been working in Columbia for the past year or something, came back home to stay in Toronto permanently yesterday. He was diagnosed with advanced cancer late last year. When he was in Columbia I did not see him very often, which made my defense mechanism of not looking at the problem work. However, seeing him back and look so sick now makes it impossible to ignore the situation, and I realize that with the little time he may have left I just can't afford to give up another year of school to go to Japan. I realize that I need to finish up school and gradually begin my career and start working to be able to support myself. That being said, I realize that this may be my only chance for JET. At least for quite some time.

Though I was pretty darn upset finding out I was on the alternate list (more and more waiting, which I had enough of..) I had people giving me hope. First wave this, second wave that. My Japanese professor told me to be patient, and that all her past students that were on the alternate list all got, even as late as July. Well, it's August, most JETs are now in Japan. Still not a word. This year turned out to be a pretty bad year for Toronto alternates. In fact just the number of alternates Toronto had was shocking. Many of the events geared at for JET participants in Toronto were majority people on the waiting list. Yet I only heard of 2 people being upgraded from Toronto on these forums..There are probably more but myself and other deserving Toronto alternates are still waiting and hoping..

I suppose that last part may have sounded like a rant, but truthfully I am starting to feel rather unlucky. I mean, if only I weren't in Toronto, maybe it could have happened?

Was this post necessary? Not probably. Did it belong here? I don't know. But right now I am feeling rather lost, upset and lonely. Yeah, I just don't feel so good. My boyfriend is gone, my best friend will be leaving to Korea soon also, my other friends will be out of the city for school, I have to witness my dad becoming more sick as the days go by and I'm still hoping for that call knowing that this would probably be my only chance..Even though the idea of JET made me so unbelievably happy at the beginning, I honestly now feel like signed up for a major kick in the face..Or I just shouldn't have hoped for it so much, especially when applying with your significant other. I applied to every other conceivable company, and either didn't hear back or just got rejected. Applying to Korea also did not work well. Overall I feel very defeated and alone.

Sorry, and thanks for reading my self directed pity story.

Oh, and of course, good luck to all those still holding on and waiting.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby Kiffster » Sun Aug 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Hey, Emi. That was a pretty emotionally packed post, and I'm going to do my best to reply.

I'm right with you on the whole alternates thing. My partner may also be on the alternates list with me and not flying overseas as we speak, but I know exactly how you feel. Especially now that August is here, Group B has taken off, and my consulate (Calgary) has not received a single upgrade. Nada. It's not a nice feeling. However, it is what it is, and we can only make the best of whatever situation we may be in, right? I know you've said you may not be able to apply again for quite some time, but that's ok! There's nothing wrong with getting other aspects of your life taken care of first. I get the impression that you're still pretty young, and while it may seem like a dying dream, I wouldn't cross it off your list just yet. I have a friend who's 34 years old and on his way to Tokyo as we speak!

Of course, despite being optimistic, there is the chance that JET may not end up being in your future. However, I'm getting the impression that this whole process might be serving a different purpose for you. Perhaps it's acting as a catalyst, a way to help you come to realize what needs to be prioritized in your life right now. You mentioned finishing school, as well as your father (which is a big pill to swallow, holy cow. I'm really sorry.) - I don't know what your relationship with him is, but I think you need to support him in whatever way you can. My Grandma told me maybe a month ago that she's losing her battle with cancer (a battle I wasn't even aware of), and while avoiding the situation (and in turn one's own sense of mortality) all together is certainly much less stressful, you'll regret it later. Take the plunge, and love him as much and as often as you can. Hands down, that should be way more important than getting to Japan right now.


I hope this helps you to feel a little less lonely and upset. Feel free to PM me anytime if it helps. That's what places like this are for, right? :)
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby ktown_ash » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:41 am

Kiffster wrote:Take the plunge, and love him as much and as often as you can. Hands down, that should be way more important than getting to Japan right now.


As Kiffster said I don't know what your relationship with your father is like but it sounds like instead of losing a chance you won one, I hope you can make the most of your time left with your father.
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Re: Alternates 2012

Postby husky » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:20 pm

Emidono wrote:...


I think this year (and the past few) have been pretty bad in general for JET/ALT company applicants in general, unfortunately... so instead of thinking that you weren't good enough, I think it's really just the fact that the economy's in such a state where we have too many overqualified candidates applying. Do you have any experience with the Japanese language? I guess depending on your level, the list of opportunities for employment in Japan can improve. I actually have a friend who was so determined to work in Japan that he saved up some money from his stable office job and just dove headfirst right into Tokyo with the intent of finding a job from there (since it's easier to find an ALT-related job if you're already in Tokyo)... he had a first few rough weeks where he scraped close to becoming homeless, but at this point he's been doing better and better, and is currently living exactly how he wanted to live.

I think the important thing about trying to find work in Japan is to not give up- keep your eyes open for opportunities from your connections and job websites; it might not be this year, but there are many ways in... they're just either hard to find, or hard to traverse.

In any case, let me know if you want my friend's contact information. Maybe he can help you out if you're willing to do what he did?

*Also, it's nice to know a kindred spirit! Let me know if you need any information or advice on getting into Japan, and perhaps I'll have or know a resource that can help you out :)
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