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Re: Placement

Postby bittersweet » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:12 am

EricaHartmann wrote:Shakken is the twice yearly car inspection to check that it's road worthy I think, someone else who actually owns a car should clarify this.

Not twice yearly (I have a car). When you buy a car off your pred, make sure to ask if it has any shakken left on it so you can figure that into the price. Shakken costs about 80,000¥ for a yellow plate and is good for 2 yrs. You don't want to be surprised buying a car from your pred and find out it has no shakken left.
I think after the first year of shakken, you have to get it inspected again for a smaller fee- around 10,000?
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Re: Placement

Postby AVN » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:03 pm

bittersweet wrote:
EricaHartmann wrote:Shakken is the twice yearly car inspection to check that it's road worthy I think, someone else who actually owns a car should clarify this.

Not twice yearly (I have a car). When you buy a car off your pred, make sure to ask if it has any shakken left on it so you can figure that into the price. Shakken costs about 80,000¥ for a yellow plate and is good for 2 yrs. You don't want to be surprised buying a car from your pred and find out it has no shakken left.
I think after the first year of shakken, you have to get it inspected again for a smaller fee- around 10,000?


I'm not sure which inspection you're talking about other than recommending people get their car inspected at least once in the 2 years. I get a quick once over when I get the tires changed, so twice a year.

Also it's worth noting if you own a white plate (a real car ;) ) Your shakken will be closer to 100 000 yen and possibly more if it's older. The cost depends on the state of the car.

I definitely agree about asking your pred about the shakken though. A friend of mine agreed to pay 80 000 for an old car under the pretense it was a good car. She knew the shakken would be up in October but was assured that it would only be around 100 000 yen.
Before the shakken was even up she had to have 3 major, expensive, repairs done (one of which should have been apparent/a problem for the pred as well). Then shakken was almost 200 000 yen not 100 000.
On top of that the car then died a year later and she had to get a new one.
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Re: Placement

Postby bittersweet » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:23 pm

I'm talking about the "mini shakken" I've heard of on here, for cars 10 yrs or older. I'm not sure of the exact details as I haven't had to do it yet. Does anyone know how much that costs for an old yellow plate?
edit- nevermind, I found the info here:
http://www.supermelf.com/japan/ajetdriv ... ap1.html#d
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Re: Placement

Postby AVN » Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:32 pm

bittersweet wrote:I'm talking about the "mini shakken" I've heard of on here, for cars 10 yrs or older. I'm not sure of the exact details as I haven't had to do it yet. Does anyone know how much that costs for an old yellow plate?
edit- nevermind, I found the info here:
http://www.supermelf.com/japan/ajetdriv ... ap1.html#d


Oh yeah, in my opinion that's a good reason to not own a car over 10 years old ;)
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Re: Placement

Postby word » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:30 pm

Yep, it's an ingenious way for Japan to force a small market to constantly buy new cars, and is why you'll almost never see any old cars around here.
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Re: Placement

Postby AVN » Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:35 pm

word wrote:Yep, it's an ingenious way for Japan to force a small market to constantly buy new cars, and is why you'll almost never see any old cars around here.

I like what they do in Europe, or at least the Netherlands. Your insurance/taxes go up depending on how well your car is running. They do a shakken kind of thing that determines how much you'll pay that year. So if you have an old car that runs well no penalty but if you have dangerous polluting clunker you'll pay a lot and be encouraged to get a newer cleaner car.
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Re: Placement

Postby Siyris » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:03 pm

bittersweet wrote:I'm talking about the "mini shakken" I've heard of on here, for cars 10 yrs or older. I'm not sure of the exact details as I haven't had to do it yet. Does anyone know how much that costs for an old yellow plate?
edit- nevermind, I found the info here:
http://www.supermelf.com/japan/ajetdriv ... ap1.html#d


Maybe this is incorrect info on my part.... but what I was told when I came was that you SHOULD get the mini shaken... but that there are no consequences if you don't.... at least... that's what the other ALTs in the area all told me....
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Re: Placement

Postby AVN » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:27 pm

Siyris wrote:
bittersweet wrote:I'm talking about the "mini shakken" I've heard of on here, for cars 10 yrs or older. I'm not sure of the exact details as I haven't had to do it yet. Does anyone know how much that costs for an old yellow plate?
edit- nevermind, I found the info here:
http://www.supermelf.com/japan/ajetdriv ... ap1.html#d


Maybe this is incorrect info on my part.... but what I was told when I came was that you SHOULD get the mini shaken... but that there are no consequences if you don't.... at least... that's what the other ALTs in the area all told me....


Well you should if you don't take care of your car. I get my car "serviced" twice a year but I thought that was just common sense until I found out most of the ALTs I know never get theirs serviced unless there's an obvious problem...
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Re: Placement

Postby Siyris » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:36 pm

AVNicholls wrote:
Siyris wrote:
bittersweet wrote:I'm talking about the "mini shakken" I've heard of on here, for cars 10 yrs or older. I'm not sure of the exact details as I haven't had to do it yet. Does anyone know how much that costs for an old yellow plate?
edit- nevermind, I found the info here:
http://www.supermelf.com/japan/ajetdriv ... ap1.html#d


Maybe this is incorrect info on my part.... but what I was told when I came was that you SHOULD get the mini shaken... but that there are no consequences if you don't.... at least... that's what the other ALTs in the area all told me....


Well you should if you don't take care of your car. I get my car "serviced" twice a year but I thought that was just common sense until I found out most of the ALTs I know never get theirs serviced unless there's an obvious problem...


I don't get mine properly serviced... but my JHS's groundskeeper doesn't let me drive it if it's doing anything he thinks is odd... It was making a whistle sound in the cold (some cars do that) and he insisted on taking it in for me, and then bringing it back... didn't ask for any money for it either...
But yeah... if you don't take care of a car or pay attention to how it runs, then taking it in every year is a good idea.
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Re: Placement

Postby AVN » Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:38 pm

Siyris wrote:
AVNicholls wrote:
Siyris wrote:
Maybe this is incorrect info on my part.... but what I was told when I came was that you SHOULD get the mini shaken... but that there are no consequences if you don't.... at least... that's what the other ALTs in the area all told me....


Well you should if you don't take care of your car. I get my car "serviced" twice a year but I thought that was just common sense until I found out most of the ALTs I know never get theirs serviced unless there's an obvious problem...


I don't get mine properly serviced... but my JHS's groundskeeper doesn't let me drive it if it's doing anything he thinks is odd... It was making a whistle sound in the cold (some cars do that) and he insisted on taking it in for me, and then bringing it back... didn't ask for any money for it either...
But yeah... if you don't take care of a car or pay attention to how it runs, then taking it in every year is a good idea.

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