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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby AVN » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:05 pm

Lianwen wrote:
WHYRD wrote:
Lianwen, your comments gave me a nice chuckle before I had lunch.



Good. I didn`t want to be rude or mean, but it seems like quite a few people now (thanks to media and to 3/11) are thinking Tohoku and Miyagi/Fukushima prefectures are interchangeable with each other. I realize that those areas you have in your `avoidance` list are what you pulled off the top of your head, but there are other lovely areas in the Tohoku area, and the sooner we can break up this thought that Tohoku=Dangerous (that not just you, but a few people I`ve spoken with lately, have), the better.

...AvNick....all that snow :( I didn`t have any placement requests; I just asked to be placed somewhere that wouldn`t be too cold in winter and too hot in summer (gave the interview panel a laugh)... The joke was on me. *currently -5C and snowing* :(


Oh come on ;-) Be adventurous try something new. The snow and cold are wonderful in their own way. There is nothing more beautiful than freshly fallen snow. Plus cold weather = warmer hearts. Hokkaido people are extremely friendly and helpful. My neighbour has a snowblower so instead of leaving me to shovel my walk and in front of my garage he snow blows it for me without me having asked.

Also the ski/snowboard community is strong, we have drift ice (AMAZING) and the Sapporo snow festival.

Plus summers are cooler and less humid, which, after living in Niigata, I enjoy very much.

Also, as a girl from central Canada I shake my head at your-5... That's nothing...
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Crowbeak » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:21 pm

I come from Alaska, which is also on the ring of fire and has volcanoes and earthquakes often and fairly large in magnitude. I took a class on earthquakes and one on oceans in college to cover my science requirements.

As someone else mentioned above, Japan is at the convergence of three techtonic plates. The whole country is basically formed from buckled earth poking out of the sea. That said, Japan is also a wealthy nation with a good understanding of how to build buildings to withstand earthquakes and the money to do so. If you're gonna be in a building when a big earthquake hits, Japan is the place to be. You can't get any safer in terms of architecture. The Tohoku earthquake hardly damaged any buildings... it was the tsunamis which followed that raped the coastal cities.

As magnitude goes: an earthquake which would ravage 3-4 states in the midwest USA wouldn't necessarily even wake people up if it happened in Alaska. Geography has a lot to do with how earthquakes travel, and rocky, mountainous areas don't feel an earthquake as strongly as a flat place where the ground is all one big piece of rock. If the rock is more broken up, the gaps between rocks absorb some of the shock. Japan is not flat. So in combination with the badass earthquake-resistant architecture, you're not usually going to face really bad shaking on the surface.

The tohoku earthquake -- earthquakes, really, as an earthquake of that magnitude has a retinue of friends coming before and after -- occured on a fault line that runs along the eastern length of Japan. It only occurred at the northern end, however, which means there's now a shitton of pressure built up along the southern part where the techtonic plates didn't slide. In addition to whatever pressure was already being exerted there, there's now extra pressure because there are fewer points where the Pacific plate is hung up on the underside of the country.

And that is why they're predicting a huge earthquake near Tokyo sooner than later. The extra pressure is going to make that southern part of the fault line move, too, and when it does it will probably slide just as far and deform the coastline, too. It will undoubtedly cause tsunamis as well. The potential consequences much more dire than those of the Tohoku earthquake.

Among the possible consequences is the next eruption of Mt. Fuji. There was a strong earthquake (5-point-something, if I recall correctly) almost directly under it. That volcano has never been labeled inactive, and the seawater that would be forced downward in such an earthquake could very well cause magma to rise up through the crust. Mt. Fuji is the kind of volcano which sometimes oozes and sometimes explodes... and with an earthquake of magnitude 9 shoving huge quantities of seawater down, I'd put my money on an explosive eruption.

When the Tokyo area gigant earthquake hits (they can't accurately predict when, but it will come), the areas that will be safest from tsunamis will, quite simply, be the northwest coast of honshu. If you look up tsunami hit patterns, you'll see that they don't wrap around islands very well.

Then there are typhoons. I can't speak much for them because Alaska doesn't get them. I will say that when a typhoon hit Hokkaido recently, my little mountain valley just got more rain than usual and saw the river swell. So that, too, depends on where you go.
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Namisuke » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:44 pm

AVOID TOHOKU?!?! Now that's just bonkers! Tohoku is full of beauty, culture, and wonderful people. Some of my greatest experiences here have been volunteering along the devestated coast because of the amazing people there. If you get a chance to work here, you should definitely visit the great North! Those getting placed in the areas affected by the tsunami I consider lucky as they get to be around some of the most kind and welcoming people I had ever met. An ALT can really get a lot of good done over there. Tohoku is a huge area of Japan and the vast majority of it was not directly affected by the tsunami. I agree, along with others, that it is good not to mix the areas up.

Japan is a country with one of the lowest crime rates in the world as well. I am much more afraid of the actions of humans than the actions of nature.

Be prepared in advance for disasters here. Keep a survival kit in a safe place, have everyone's contact information, keep back-up batteries and adapters (for your cell phone to check the news and contact family, etc.), and avoid watching or doing interviews with CNN. I heard many stories about them coming over here and causing panic and completely misrepresenting things (they might even be the cause of your worry if you were watching them). Many of us had to calm down family and friends demanding for us to come home because of the crazy news. It is more of a drama series than a factual program (hence some news titles such as "Countdown to Meltdown"). Try not to get pulled in by it.
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Cytrix » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:18 pm

How do you even leave your home if you're this concerned about something that you can not control. In all seriousness yes there could be the chance of a giant earthquake, but there is also the chance you will get run over tomorrow by an old lady. We're all going to die somehow and no matter what we do to prepare it's going to happen.

So don't let some predictions get you so freaked out. Really you are in far greater danger living in New Zealand due to the large fault line running right through there, the risk of tsunamis (the fact that most of our cities/towns are on the coast), volcanoes in Auckland, and absolutely SHOCKING building standards. You also have no control over where you are placed. You could put down all these super 'safe' parts of Japan and then end up smack bang in a future earthquake epicenter.

Just be prepared for the worst case scenario and learn to live life without worrying so much about things out of your control (both natural disasters AND your placement).
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Teishou » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:51 pm

Or, you know, just don't go. Go to France or something - part of this program is getting out of your box.
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby SeaJay » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:50 pm

"But what about the quakes and the radiation!" is the first thing that has come out of every one of my friends and families' lips that I've told about applying. And I just roll my eyes.

Everyone here is basically saying the same thing. A chance to live in Japan for a year is ABSOLUTELY worth the (kind of minute) chance that you'll find yourself caught in the middle of some horrendous natural disaster.

I grew up on the coast of Texas. Hurricane Rita, which was basically the less famous twin sister of Hurricane Katrina, was aimed directly at my hometown, Corpus Christi. It was totally going to slam my city, until an air pressure system pushed it up to hit Galveston area. And it wreaked some pretty good havoc. I went to Galveston a few years after and they were STILL rebuilding the beach fronts, but, it was NOTHING compared to the damage that New Orleans suffered from Katrina. New Orleans was leveled and still to this day have entire blocks of houses that have been abandoned and condemned, waiting for demolition.

Now here's the kicker. Rita was just as STRONG if not a little bit more so, than Katrina. Rita sustained at a full Category 5 for 24 hours and Katrina only sustained for 18 hours as a Category 5. Katrina wasn't even a Category 5 when she hit New Orleans, she was a THREE. Rita also landed as a three, but Rita's highest wind speed was 180 mph and Katrina's 175 mph. The death toll (both direct and indirect) of Hurricane Rita was 120 and the death toll of Katrina? Over 1,800. So, why, did two hurricanes almost as equally strong as each other have such drastic differences in damage levels?

The answer is the government systems surrounding the cities.

Both Galveston, Corpus Christi, and pretty much the entire Texas coast have had their fair share of devastating Hurricanes. The most infamous would be the Hurricane of 1900 which absolutely leveled Galveston and wracked up a horrific death toll of somewhere between 8,000 and 9,000. Another one would be the Hurricane of 1916 which struck as a category 4 somewhere south of Corpus with a death toll of 24. Significantly lower because the Texas Government witnessed the tragedy of the 1900 Hurricane and went, "OH. CRAP. That's a big angry ocean we have as a neighbor, let's keep that thing in check." They had a seawall built around Galveston by 1905 and one built up around Corpus by they early 1920s after it had its own round with a deadly hurricane or two. They quickly recognized the force they were dealing with and over time and tons of encounters, we've almost perfected the art of hurricane survival. Florida is another fantastic, if not better, example of a state who has their stuff together.

Louisiana has seen its fair share of hurricanes, 49, to be exact between 1851 to 2004 (Texas' hits reach well over this number) but, have never really done anything to prevent cities like New Orleans from washing away. The levees were built to protect the city, but for YEARS safety has been (at least) questionable. Everyone knew they wouldn't hold a substantial flood and that's just what Katrina brought. New Orleans is essentially a geographical fish bowl, the city rests in a valley that dips BELOW sea level. The levees were the rim of the bowl and when they broke, the entire city filled up. THAT'S what killed all those people. Not mention rioting, the horrors that went on in the Superdome, the fact that people would not leave their homes, and an extremely disorganized evacuation executed by the city. I'm not even sure if the state has a system of hurricane evacuation routes (which Texas totally does on every major highway in or around the coastal area).

Point in case is, it's all about whether a government has acknowledged what type of natural disasters their areas are prone to and if they've done something to ensure their people will be as safe as possible. Japan is the dictionary definition of doing this, their government has done everything they can possibly do to ensure the safety of their people and are still coming up with more ways each day. Natural disasters happen EVERYWHERE, there is no escaping them. Sometimes the Earth just has to remind us who is boss, but that does not mean we have to coop ourselves up in fear. How will you ever experience the world?!

Personally, natural disasters fascinate, if not completely excite me. To me, its like witnessing mother nature at her finest and in some ways her most beautiful. The one hurricane I've been through (Hurricane Bret, a category 4, hit south of Corpus) humbled me and left me in awe. The night it hit, I begged my mom to sleep in our sunroom which had huge windows on three of the walls that reached all the way to the ceiling. I wanted to have the best view of the storm and I did. And it was a beauty.
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby nicklar » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:19 pm

The thing you really have to ask yourself is, "If I'm that worried should I even bother?" As others have said it's about getting out your box and yes, possibly taking on some risk. I lived in a seaside village right on the Japan Sea and had to have tsunami drills, keep an emergency box of supplies plus have an evacuation route planned out. So you say, hey I just going to go for it or you look for opportunities elsewhere. Good luck!
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby KarinaM » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:30 pm

Hmmm....

I want to tell you a little about my own situation. I was working in Hitachi, Ibaraki when the earthquake struck. I watched a live feed of the tsunami coming in, and couldn't help keep looking down the street to see if that monster would roll in in front of me. Now, I have applied to the JET Program to once again want to return to work in Japan. Even after feeling a 9.0 earthquake, living with minimal food and water, having no clean running water because of nuclear fears, and well..standing in line for hours at a time for only 10 items, I'll tell you one thing: It was an experience that taught me the things we take for granted and I really thought about the value of life. Even after all this, get me a plane ticket, and I'm there! I'm a traveller and I'll tell you, it's the most amazing country full of the most amazing people. I would live in Japan for as long as I could. Don't live your life with fear. You won't regret it if something happens, you''ll regret it when nothing happens.

Hope I shed some light on the issue! Cheers!

P.S. Someone mentioned this and they are absolutely correct: If you are going to experience any natural disaster in your life, might as well be in Japan. They are the most ready, and so supportive. They are there for you, even as a stranger, through thick and thin!

OH AND...The earthquake did no damage to where I was. If you consider a few broken computers, and things on the floor damage, then don't go. Nobody I know was harmed, even in Sendai. The tragedy truly was from that monstrous tsunami. If you are so worried, request a non-coastal prefecture. I was 5 min from the ocean! :) It was beautiful though, so you will be missing out.
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Rising_Sunshine » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:45 pm

KarinaM wrote:
If you are going to experience any natural disaster in your life, might as well be in Japan. They are the most ready, and so supportive. They are there for you, even as a stranger, through thick and thin!



This^

I am originally from the Gulf coast and after experiencing Hurricane Katrina, the BP oil spill and the various other disasters I can assure you there are worse (aka Less prepared) places to experience a natural disaster. Besides if your going to go out might as well be doing something you right? The truth is there could very well be an earthquake or volcanic eruption or meter impact in Japan..but there could also be one in New Zealand too. I cant tell you what to do but I think it would be a mistake to let this impact your decision to participate in the JET program.

Besides, They are going to put you where ever they feel like it anyway so its kinda out of your control. If you make it all the way to placement and they put you in a place that you feel uncomfortable then you can always change your mind (before they but the ticket or you owe them money) but be sure because once you do that you cant participate in JET for a year so instead of 2012 or 2013 the next time you'd be eligible would be 2014! :shock:
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Sendai_Momiji » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:31 pm

I think this can be best summed up with a web comic.

http://satwcomic.com/don-t-panic
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby SaitamaPA_Denise » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:33 pm

This is a pretty cool thread. Everyone's given basically pretty awesome answers.

Let's face it, nowhere is safe. If it's not tsunamis on coasts, it's landslides and avalanches and floods in the inland areas. And if it's not those kinds of disasters, it's car crashes and bubonic plague and solar storms. I speak, of course, of the US. Or maybe Canada. Or Italy? I forget.

I mean, if you read all the information there is out there over the next year or so and weigh all the data carefully while keeping in mind that seismology isn't exactly a field known for its certainty and you still feel that, all things considered--disasters, accidents, crimes, plagues--it is safer to not go to Japan, you're free to not go. But being in an earthquake/typhoon/tornado/etc. is different from being a casualty of one. Japan is pretty good at teaching people how to keep from getting hurt and/or killed if they happen to be in such an event.

(As someone living in Saitama, I'll admit I'm not exactly thrilled at that 70%-chance-in-4-years news. But, that will make me go out and get, say, more batteries and water for my emergency supplies; it's not about to make me decide to go home this summer.)
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby AmberBear » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:18 pm

I am an ex-JET returning to work in Okayama in an private company... and in my research of Okayama, I actually read it has low rates of natural disasters...
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Crowbeak » Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:48 pm

SeaJay wrote:Point in case is, it's all about whether a government has acknowledged what type of natural disasters their areas are prone to and if they've done something to ensure their people will be as safe as possible. Japan is the dictionary definition of doing this, their government has done everything they can possibly do to ensure the safety of their people and are still coming up with more ways each day.
Don't forget the yakuza, either. They actually responded and got supplies into the disaster-wrecked areas faster than the government did.
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby Shea » Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:45 am

Eigen wrote:Also, the earthquake they predict in Tokyo I don't think is the Tokai earthquake, which is forecast to come in between Nagoya and Kyoto and shake up towards where my school is, in Gujo (Gifu Prefecture). We had a presentation on it since everyone is given mandatory training to help people evacuate in case of natural disaster.


I was surfing around my normal news sites and I came across this article.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/ja ... four-years

Perhaps this is the earthquake everyone's waiting for?
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Re: Areas of Japan with low diaster rate

Postby davidpgrossman » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:19 am

Don't think anywhere will be 100% safe sorry.
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