William MacDonald wrote:trout501 wrote:He writes "If you don't want to admit your guilt or make an apology, then that's fine and dandy," but the implication from the discourse is plain as day. To him, this is very much NOT fine and dandy. Basically what he's saying in his posts is that because he "admits guilt" for his entire country's misdeeds (as if that means anything), and I don't admit my guilt - and by "my" he implies that the deeds of long dead presidents of the country where I happen to have been born are my responsibility - that makes me a hypocrite and him not a hypocrite. And therefore, as the implication goes, I and other people who won't make an absurd apology to him are not worth listening to. I would say that's an ad hominem if I've ever heard one.
P.S. trout501 - the U.S. is still bombing civilians today, so it's not just an issue about "long dead presidents". If you're a citizen of voting age in a democratic country then you get certain rights, but with them come certain responsibilities, and one of them is being responsible for the stuff your politicians do in your name.
How wonderful, a post from a reasonable human being willing to consider what's actually being said!phoenixphreak wrote:I feel that I've been able to see a lot of new points of view regarding the whole thing that I honestly didn't before. I now question a lot more of the 'facts' I thought I knew about the deterrent or war ending effects of the bomb. But that said, there is still something I don't exactly understand.
I don't want to just say, 'they started it'. But, well, there are some countries that have very actively invaded other countries to try to take them over. Yes, the US does this now and has for over half a century, setting up puppet governments for our own advantage. I don't like this at all and am disgusted by it. But regarding back in WW2, isn't it something to be considered that Japan was trying to take over the world?
I think all countries re-write history in horrible ways. Hopefully by year 3000 or 4000 we'll be a bit more evolved, but that is a far fetched hope. But the lack of context for the stories in Sunshine and elsewhere is what disappoints me the most.
This is a sincere post, and I really do want to understand better what Ode to a Grasshopper and William MacDonald are saying.
histgirl wrote:And again, if you want to do JET because you love Japan and not because you love teaching/children, please don't come. There are enough ALTs bad at their job that are wasting taxpayer money already. JET is not a free ticket to Japan.
rufustfirefly wrote:Mr Macdonald
You seem to have the reading comprehension level of a 6 year old. It was YOU who questioned the right of foreigners to critique japanese text books-I was merely pointing out the hypocracy of this when YOU are commenting on japanese text book contents yourself. As to context, I thought it was pretty clear what context we were talking about- why the U.S was bombing Japan. And did you just imply I should leave Japan? Whhhoah a bit out of line dont ya think?
Really dude you should get help with your reading difficulties. Adult illiteracy is a serious problem but it can be overcome. There are a number of fine adult literacy programs I could direct you to. Hey I`m just trying to help...
Two geniuses who describe half of this thread and nearly 100% of the internet wrote:Year 2000 Ig Nobel Prize Winners
PSYCHOLOGY: David Dunning of Cornell University and Justin Kruger of the University of Illinois, for their modest report, "Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments." [Published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, vol. 77, no. 6, December 1999, pp. 1121-34.]
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